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Thursday, February 4, 2016

Beyond Reason

A couple weeks ago I posted on the Discovering Reason FB page something David Smalley (host of Dogma Debate) wrote on his FB page. I saw someone had left a comment saying,

“What utter garbage. Bet the writer can find no empirical 'proof' for his claims. Hypocrite!”


Since David wasn’t around to defend himself, I responded in his defense, this sparked a somewhat heated but civil discussion, which you can find here.

Toward the end of our back and forth he had taken a look at the DR blog and asked if I’d be willing to let him write something to challenge the readers to ask “positive questions about God” and hopefully start a different type of discussion.

I thought this was a great idea. Although I know some might think, “Why agree to that? We’re already bombarded with Christian content everywhere we look.” This is true, but I think anything that gets people to examine the views of others and discuss them in a civil way is a good thing. It seems many Christians have the view that non-believers don’t believe because they don’t understand. So I’d like to encourage people to read the post below with an open-mind, and after reading it share your thoughts in the comments.
Note: I’ve looked for a Christian blog in the past that would be willing to post something I’ve written on their blog and in exchange I’d post something of theirs in an attempt to encourage people to challenge their views. I haven’t had any luck in this venture, so if someone reading this has a Christian blog or know of a Christian blog that would like to participate in said idea, please contact me!

Beyond Reason

I love reason. There’s something about it that seems so certain, secure. I also love puzzles, especially logic puzzles - the idea that one can pit one’s wits against a problem and weigh up all of the alternatives before arriving at a solid conclusion which can be demonstrated without doubt! Perhaps reason is something of what makes us human, sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom? The ability to work out new ways of doing things, evaluate them and improve based on evidence. But what do we do when we come to the boundaries of reason? Sure these boundaries are ever expanding, by the marvels of science and philosophy, but are there places that reason cannot take us?

It was George Gordon Byron, the English romantic poet, who said, “Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves.” I think I agree. I don't think I would ever advocate turning off our brains or closing our eyes to reason - in fact the more switched on of us simply wouldn't be able to do that anyway - it’s part of who we are!

Christopher Hitchens, the twentieth-century author, critic and journalist would almost certainly agree. He said, “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” But what if there is evidence beyond what can be shared, beyond what Science can capture in a bottle or record on a video camera? What if there is something that exists beyond what we might call objective reason - reason that all can see and share?

I suppose we are now venturing from the realms of science, into the realms of philosophy and so perhaps philosophers can offer some food for thought. Blaise Pascal was a French seventeenth-century mathematician, physicist, inventor and writer. He was very familiar with reason and committed to it, though he would certainly marvel at the beauty of modern physics were he able to experience it! Pascal, however, was also a Christian Philosopher. He had perhaps been confronted with the edge of reason (if you’ll pardon the irrelevant film reference!). For him, the boundaries of reason, or scientific enquiry at least, were probably much narrower. But what did Pascal do when he reached the edge of reason? I think he went beyond reason. It was Pascal that said, “The heart has its reasons which reason knows not.” Don’t, for even a minute, think he disengaged his brain, instead I think he’s allowed it greater freedom. Contemplate the great scientists for a moment, Einstein, Newton…and modern Scientists such as Peter Higgs. Great rational and scientific minds - but all possessed something which could be argued to be just as important - imagination! (In fact, Einstein is credited with saying, “Imagination is more important than knowledge.”) It was first in the 1960s that Higgs and others suspected particles, which are now known as Higgs boson, existed. They had no evidence then and I don’t think the evidence is fully conclusive now (though I’m happy to be corrected on this – it’s not my field of expertise). But my point is, there was a time when they believed something was true despite the evidence - in fact sometimes it’s contrary to all the current stock of evidence - who first imagined that the Earth could be round?

Voltaire, the French Enlightenment writer, historian, and philosopher said “Faith consists in believing what reason cannot.” Was it faith that kept Higgs searching for his particle? Was it faith that gave Einstein the dogged determination to develop his general theory of relativity? It was Einstein who said, “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” and I wonder if he was onto something there. Let’s put aside modern critiques of religion for a moment, that’s a separate issue. What I’m fascinated by, is the idea that Science and reason alone are incomplete.

And now for the leap of faith - or maybe we’d prefer small steps…but let’s wonder for a moment if, when we step beyond reason we can’t perhaps enter a realm of personal, empirical, scientific exploration. Sure the world around us may think we’re mad, they may not believe our journey for they cannot see our personal evidence - perhaps not until some time later, when the objective evidence finally emerges - or when they see it for themselves. But perhaps along this journey we’ll find our own personal evidence - as a result of our faith and as a result of determination to venture further than Science and reason alone can go. For many the modus operandi is “See and I will believe.” I just wonder if there is a place, beyond reason, where it follows to, “Believe and then we’ll see.”

Peter Hibberts (padrepedro1978@gmail.com)

5 comments:

  1. I expected a different type of blog post based on the initial build-up, but I suppose I should have not been so cynical.

    The manner with which you speak about the human process called faith -- this is the aspirational tone that faith ought to bring out of one's mind. You display utter contentment in enduring the time it will take to reach the "truth-becoming" of those things you have faith in. I wish more people felt contentment in their technically uncertain but emotionally gratifying beliefs.

    The reaching out beyond reason you write about is a personal journey - one you share with so many you know, of course, but nonetheless it is each person's responsibility to push themselves through that process and still have grace along the way. The "personal touch" of faith is poetically superior to the public brimstone of using people's faith to turn them against peaceful people of other religions (or no religion at all).

    Your blog acknowledges that the objective truth stage of your process lies ahead, but your faith continues to guide you towards it until you find that. I would argue that Einstein was in pursuit of proving a hypothesis (an educated guess), which is scientifically more responsible than proving a mere belief. However, you put yourself in the same stage as pre-relativity Einstein of your respective experiments, and I'll grant that. In fact, I find your introspection along those lines refreshing coming from a faithful person.

    Why should those with faith - those who are in between the hypothesis and conclusion stages of their experiment - get to craft public policy? Why should they get legal amnesty from discriminatory acts? Why should they get to claim moral superiority in even secular debates? That is the ascension of faith so many atheists stand against: not the ascension of one's imagination and spirit, but the ascension of one's ego into the throne of man.

    I thank you very much for your intriguing take on where Faith resides in your life. I have a feeling it is going to be following me around a little.

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    1. Thanks Mark, a great response and I'm glad it was taken in the spirit it was intended.

      Firstly, what I would challenge is, for me personally, the idea that I am, "between the hypothesis and conclusion stages of [my] experiment." I set up a concept of objective and personal evidence above. I can provide you with no objective evidence based on my experience of God but have such a wealth of personal that I am far beyond the conclusion stage - I'm certain. Faith led me there and at times, I admit, I am less certain because as time passes our experiences fade and we doubt what we experienced - but thats why I journal my experiences to remember what I am in no doubt God has done and to build my own personal evidence base and fight the doubts. If Einstein had lost all his evidence in a fire, he would be certain but would not be able to demonstrate it to others!

      You raise some more practical ethical points which are a minefield to negotiate - but good ones! I actually believe in a secular political climate with religion pitching its oar in as one of many belief systems. Christianity was in a minority in 1st century Palestine and had no political power - arguably the history of church and state hasn't done the church as much good as might first be thought!

      I don't think we should claim moral superiority in ethical debates either and I'm sorry for when we do appear to (or just do!). Jesus told a story about a man with a huge debt who begged and had his debt forgiven and then went to find a smaller debtor and sent him to prison for none payment. (Matthew 18:23-35) There were just desserts for the man who effectively accepted forgiveness and then took the moral high ground. That's not how Christianity should work. Each Christian is a sinner forgiven, shown grace and should do likewise. That said, Im pretty rubbish at that, especially when I get the bit between my teeth in a good debate. ;-)

      Legal amnesty? I suppose you might be referring to Same Sex Marriage here. (I could be wrong.) My definition of marriage does not leave room, I'm sorry to say, for SSM. I've thought long and hard, read widely and engaged in debate (I might add that I remain open to change my mind on this as I'd love to). But I can't see a way, yet, to reconcile what I see as Biblical Marriage and SSM. I don't want to hi-jack this debate with that one - perhaps I will post on another thread if one becomes available but I’ll answer your criticism as best I can: Do I want, "legal amnesty from discriminatory acts"? I hope not. I suppose I'm happy for people outside of the church to have SSM; (Though really its none of my business.) why would they live by a book they don't believe in? I can even live with people, who see the Bible differently than I do, having SSM in their church (which is a a bit of a misnomer as I believe strongly in one church) but if I and my church members believe (after reasonable searching) SSM is against our institution of marriage, should we not have the freedom to be left out of it? It's a tough one. I worship alongside someone in a SSM and I'm trying to find the way to be inclusive (not for the sake of it but because the Bible commands it) and treading a fine line of what I believe to be living according to God's word. Not sure I'm getting it totally right but I hope people can understand and empathise with how difficult it is for the church to tread this line right now!

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    1. Hi Patricia, not sure from what perspective you're writing this, i.e. in response to the 'Discovering Reason' blog or the 'Beyond Reason' blog, which I write for. Not sure if you've seen my spin off blog but if not, feel free to have a look - it may or may not interest you! And as I'm told that 'Feedback is the breakfast of champions' I'd love to hear what you think! https://beyondreason315.wordpress.com/about/

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